THAN WHEN OUT NEW FORMS OF PHYSICAL?.

Death & Rebirth
(Death & Rebirth)
Thich Nguyen Tang preparation services
Melbourne, Australia 2002

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THAN WHEN OUT NEW FORMS OF PHYSICAL?

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Question: In the West, common signs of death as an end breathing and cardiac arrest. According to Buddhism, it may take long after this happens a new consciousness out of body?

Ambassador Tsenshab Kirti Rinpoche: Maybe there are two categories of people to consider here. First, young people or those who have dying in a long time. Rank of this very subtle mind and consciousness will no longer stay in the body, can just one day only. Monday is the healthy and rapid death, the consciousness of hstored in the body in three ivoryy.

The other death died suddenly(Not to the time of death that to death), Died from accidents or violence. For example, two people elight cutting each other, one of whom died suddenly, the their consciousness is not stored in the body longer. In general, how long depends on the mind of their heavy and light but out of the body after death.

Great Geshe Lamrimpa: When you stop breathing and heart stopped beating, it's clear that the crude was dissolved lost consciousness. But in many cases, the subtleties of the mind remains in the body for weeks he even sometimes take months. But most delicate part of the mind leaves the body in three or four days, during which time the body does not smell or decay.

Ambassador Garje Khamtul Rinpoche: Could not confirm that a personnh often, after death their consciousness leaves the body three days later. Many people stay longer, but some others stayed a shorter time. There are many examples of the Tibetan Lama. As eLing Rinpoche Lama depression, school teacher of the Dalai Lama, his consciousness was stay in the body after a week passed. In the Tibetan community, similar cases still occur.

In short, cremation or funeral or conducting body moves best to wait three days later. However, today this is difficult because people were afraid of pollution, therefore, should allow the transference of consciousness before eHe went to the body of the deceased.

Question: In case of those who died too serious as cancer and Aids (Sida), then they have escaped the consciousness of the body more quickly?

Ambassador Garje Khamtul Rinpoche: This is not so sure. The correct exit sooner or later does not really depend on the death an accident or serious illness, but I think that it is closely linked to good and evil of the lost business. For example, for a Dzogchen practice of law or any other law, after death they continue to visualize the emptiness and the consciousness of their bodies remain in a long time, even though they had no attachment plate This five aggregates themselves.

Question: They can tell when the consciousness leaves the body? The signs for us to know this?

Ambassador Tsenshab Kirti Rinpoche: Once addition we discuss two classes of people out of body after death. Now I will not mention the consciousness of people have escaped immediately after death determined that only comes out of the consciousness is the subtle bodies stored in various ivoryy. It is said that before him the consciousness out of body on body, then they will have an ecovering the heat is deposited only red or white, hot spots where they gathered the consciousness in that it will exit. For example, if the hot spot at the top of the convergence we believe that he would be reborn in the realms of fresh, hot spots accumulate in the feet, then surely he will fall into earth. Signs that the body consciousness out there will be a little bleeding at the nose or semen coming from the genitals.

However, there are some who do not see this sign, that is those who died suddenly from accidents or heart disease. This sign is found only in people who have died slow and long process.

Great Geshe LamrimpaMost who died of illness when the consciousness leaves can have identified signs of blood or fluid andng discharge from the nose or genitals. When the consciousness escapes the new body odor. No. 14 Dalai Lama ever speak to the famous doctor in the West about the consciousness leaves the body when theh of breath. Doctors test and said that they saw a little white smoke coming from a point on the body of the dead. This result is checked by machines and physical analysis carefully.

Signs like drops of blood or gold eIf happen to those who died serious illness. However, competition can often move him too much before you see these signs, so cases like that absolutely never happened. In Tibet, the traditional practice to keep the body in three, four or seven days so that consciousness can help eincubation time to exit properly. In the meantime nay, the deficit for the signing of the deceased are conducted in a strictly confidential.

Ambassador Garje Khamtul Rinpoche: You can tell when determined based on the consciousness out of body transformation. When consciousness remains in the body, you feel he is not really dead, their skin still fresh and extraordinarily bright, like their eang sleep. But once the consciousness has determine the immediate drainage we see other bodies associated changes, dry skin, pale and began to smell. Then, you'll be feeling it a corpse rather than another.

The experience of the smoke or drop of blood out of the body when consciousness is not always visible, we only see in a few people. Among these, the drainage body consciousness, yellow fluid discharge from the nostrils and in the groin. There is a Tibetan monks passed, the drainage body consciousness, his nose ran two fluid lines, one side is red the other is white.

Q: Is it true that until the drainage body consciousness, body began to have blindi breath and signs of decay?

Ambassador Garje Khamtul Rinpoche: The fact the case.

Question: When a man dies but consciousness still remains in the body. So he felt if others do not eslow-to?

Great Geshe Lamrimpa: They will not feel anything. As part of the consciousness dry eyes then he never feel again. For the fishc Increase the attainment and Buddhists have practiced, they die, the refinement of consciousness remains in the body, they can die in a sitting posture, determined to escape the consciousness, the body of him last fall .

Decades ago, when the Tibetan refugees first arrived at Buxa province of India, a Buddhist academy of Tibetan Buddhism and that, there are two monks who fought and died. Then, because this that Indian government and people eIa the harsh criticism to the people of Tibet, h? said that the Tibetan monks that only killing each other. Later there is a virtue called Gyari Lama Rinpoche, from Gender monastery in Tibet, the Indian had passed in the full lotus posture for seven days; The Indian enew convention to witness the preparationst unusual Lama and they try to jerk key constraintsn sheets to bem for the bodies of his fallen, but he was still sitting like a statue, though spent seven days, but his body has no smell. After this, their views on the Tibetan monks are much worse, they do not haven critical, disparaging another.

Question: If the touch and move the bodies before the body can escape the consciousness affect the minds of people die? Because in the hospital after dying breath and heart hết dam, and many other procedures governing the corpses. The intervention naharmful to health consciousness of death?

Ambassador Tsenshab Kirti Rinpoche: First of all, if that is a qualified master of meditation, they try to practice meditation after pouring hơi breathe, if we shake their bodies at them in a state of meditation, the process will harass focus their consciousness. Therefore, it is best not eto their slow-body at that time. Even an ordinary person (who does not practice) oldng should not ethe buttons to their bodies until three days later. If a person is asleep, but lay it up, they will wake up soon, people die here, too, when you touch them, no harm to the body, but great harm to their consciousness.

Add to eOh, if we have to change sheets and mattress from the bed of death just to clean it should treat them gently. Similarly, if the dead also opened his eyes and mouth open, ask a family member before the corpse to show respect and help them finally closed his eyes and mouth to look more visible. For people with deformities, twisted limbs, at coated shroud to drag it out so easily put in the coffin. But every gesture emembranes with the dead must be slightlyng and made three days after he breathed his last.

Question: Is there any benefit when we touch or stimulate the enumber Region of the dying and the dead, especially who died?

Ambassador Garje Khamtul Rinpoche: When a person has died, we can touch on enumber Region of them, which is vented the eCreate the best to escape the consciousness that Lama Je Tsong Khapa he called "the golden gate." Therefore, you should stimulate on the enumber Region First, if the consciousness of the dead from escaping by land nay is sure they will catch students on welfare realm.

But if consciousness out by the road in the groin, from the navel down, he will catch students in realms, as therei hungry ghosts or animals. Therefore, Tibetans never exposed to the lower body of the dead, if you touch any of them where they will build up the consciousness that places him escape

Great teacher Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche:Exposure to enumber Region of the dying is seen asm allowed to "transference of consciousness" for them. Perform this is not a simple matter, have to be careful to help the dying person's consciousness is concentrated in the top, where contiguous hair, known as Brahma gate. If the person's not wolves, we must pluck three hairs in concreten on the door and used his index finger tapping several times on his site, this work aims to make the consciousness of the dead know where to escape. This technique is often helped yellow fluid that flows out from the door, signs esharing intelligence allows the transference of consciousness has success.END=VIETNAMESE TRANSLATE ENGLISH BY BACH LIEN HOA.NAM MO SHAKYAMUNI BUDDHA.( 3 TIMES ).HAPPY NEW YEAR.